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LCCS Alternatives

Adobe_ejs
Level 4
Level 4

Hi all,

You may have seen an email message earlier today from me describing our plans to shutdown the LCCS service on December 31st.    I would like to use this thread for the community to discuss alternatives.   There isn't a one-size fits all solution so I think it's useful to talk about a couple of different options.  You may discover others on your own so please post them here.  To get the discussion started, here's some things I've looked at.

  • Open Source.  We have looked at this as an option and it's simply not viable for a number of reasons.   There are dependancies on third party and Adobe code that are extremely difficult to separate out.   Some of this code runs other services at Adobe that will continue to operate.
  • Flash Media Server.  LCCS is an application built on top of FMS.   I've spoken with some customers that are planning to build the LCCS features they need on top of an FMS server.   Having spoken with the FMS product manager, I can say that FMS continues to have a roadmap and will be getting investment.   We will continue to sell it into the future.   I realize this option may not be viable for some because of the associated expense around licensing and hosting your own FMS server - which brings us to FMS hosting
  • FMS hosting services:  http://www.influxis.com/ does FMS hosting.  There may be others that provide this service as well.   Please post others if you know of any. 

Also if you need further information from Adobe, I''ll do my best to dig it up.

Thanks,

Jeff

4 Replies
sebpatu2000
Level 2
Level 2

Thanks Jeff,

Very good news.

But when an official announcement will be done, once the deal is complete, it would be important that Adobe officially guaranty that the service will not be shut down on Adobe side, before the new service is fully running on the new side.

And don't forget that a lot of people is waiting to know if the new hosted service will be full featured, especially we need to know if the screen sharing will still be available?

Thanks a lot for your personal hard work to get a decent solution.

Seb

Adobe_ejs
Level 4
Level 4

Hi Seb,

We will have the new service up and running before the Adobe LCCS service is shutdown.

Yes, the service will be fully featured including the screen sharing capability.

Jeff

sebpatu2000
Level 2
Level 2

Hi Jeff,

thanks a lot for your reply. Thats really great news.

The only last remaining question is how the pricing calculation will be affected?

Regards,

Seb

Adobe_ejs
Level 4
Level 4

Hi Seb,

That's not totally clear just yet.   The hosting partner is looking at this now. We do expect that there will be some changes, but are not expecting that they will be radical.   This may not be resolved by the time that we have our formal announcement of the deal, but it won't take until October to get it sorted out either.

Jeff

adam_k
Level 4
Level 4

thanks jeff. will the recording feature be carried forward as well?

jamieqho
Level 3
Level 3

Hi Adam,

Yes, the recording feature will be carried forward and should work the same way.

-Jamie

mattcom
Level 2
Level 2

Good news Jeff,

As soon as you guys get the chance to disclose some info, I would be very interested in knowing how the future pricing will compare to the paid services that we had with Adobe.  Because otherwise, I might have to continue with the development of an alternative, as I'd rather not hang my hopes on them springing the prices on us in Oct.

Thanks,

Matthew

mattcom
Level 2
Level 2

Hi Jeff,

It's almost October.  Any more word on this?

Adobe_ejs
Level 4
Level 4

Hi Matt,

We are still working through the final details of the agreement.  Yes it's taking longer than I thought too.  The good news is that we have been working in parallel with the partner to get them setup with the LCCS source and they've been building out the application so that we can meet our October goals.

I know I sound like a broken record, but I expect to announce a final agreement soon. 

Thanks for your continued patience.

Jeff

tezqa
Level 2
Level 2

Hi Jeff,

So to be clear, is it a good idea to start developping today a video chat application with LCCS ?

Tezqa

Adobe_ejs
Level 4
Level 4

Hi Tezqa,

Your application should easily transfer over to the new service hosted by another provider.

So you could develop with LCCS.  We aren't accepting new customers on LCCS,  so as long as you already have an account setup to work with you are ok.

Jeff

David_Welch
Level 3
Level 3

Jeff:

Any updated timeline on when this will be available?

Thanks,

David

Adobe_ejs
Level 4
Level 4

Hi David,

We are still working on finalizing the agreement and I expect to make announcement in the next few days.   In the meantime we've been working with this partner to get LCCS setup in their environment.   They should be able to beta testing within a couple of weeks.

Jeff

Adobe_ejs
Level 4
Level 4

Hi,

Please see my forum post on Influxis and the agreement they have reached with Adobe.

http://forums.adobe.com/message/4777545#4777545

Thank you for your patience.

Jeff

parimal432
Level 1
Level 1

My two cents here..

http://www.tokbox.com/ has developer api as alternative to LCCS  video conferencing part. Worth taking look at,