+1 for joeflashTO2 . this is astonishing. hundreds of thousands indeed. i'm too stunned to respond properly right now.
this is *so* incredibly irresponsible. at least migrate to spoon. that's the very, very least that adobe could do. please, jeff, can you speak to this?
I don't know anymore about the authors or context of the Spoon remarks. However, the Flex whitepaper published by Adobe states that we are not contributing LCCS to apache:
""Adobe will not be contributing the AIR for Linux SDK, LCDS, or LCCS to Apache. Adobe is still investigating the viability of contributing TLF, BlazeDS.NET, Gravity, FXG, Squiggles, and OSMF.""
Whitepaper -- http://www.adobe.com/go/flex_whitepaper
I'll post again when I know more about the Spoon statements.
I appreciate your ongiong help in trying to find an alternative for us. I think going through an FMS hosting service would be the best option. My only question is how do we set up the backend so that it can talk to the client and allow all the features we currently enjoy (i.e. video, chat, whiteboard, etc...) as well as room provisioning? I do not want to go through ten different 3rd party solutions to get all the feratures LCCS supports. It's not only a waste of time/money on our end, it's also a waste of thousands of man hours of coding by the Adobe engineers. I want to use the LCCS front end as is! Will you be offering the code/installation instructions so that we can get this set up on FMS? I don't need account management or billing, just the LCCS functionality.
Thanks for the clarification Jeff. Oh well, for a while there was hope.
Personally I have absolutely no interest in alternatives. The is no reason nor excuse good enough to can a perfectly good technology which many companies have invested millions developing for. Adobe, please find a way for someone to take up the torch. You owe us, your loyal customers and clients, that much.
Hello I am the creator of edoboard.com
For us it will be the end of the product I have no time to reinvest to find & develop an alternative solution.
However I found that UC engine may matches some of the features needed http://ucengine.af83.com/ to do a porting.
In the meantime I will prepare a 'memorial page' with videos of the product .
Jeff, atleast allow us to create accounts for 3 more months. We have clients who use their own accounts for using our component. Now without account creation option, they are stuck and our component is rendered USELESS.
Adobe is ruining our business completely. We are really small and now we can no longer sell our component. I'm at loss of words. How can you have a migration plan so sudden. Google and all other companies offer a plan of atleast 6 months.
would Adobe consider selling or licensing the LCCS source if a company would be interested in carrying the LCCS business forward?
I don't talk about my company, but there seems to be quite an interrest for LCCS, so maybe a company like Influxis would be interested to take over.
It would be a win/win for everybody because some have invested a lot in LCCS...
If it could be an option, and you announce that, we could forward the message to potential acquirer.
Just a clarification from someone in the room that day. Adobe didn't say they would donate LCCS to Spoon.
First, Spoon is not the recipient of any code donations at all. Any code that Adobe has donated is to Apache, not to Spoon.
Now, the post being refered to is badly worded. It is actually not so much a post as just a live blogging of the events and slides of the summit as they were appearing. Here is the wording from that post and I added some clarification in square brackets .
Adobe will do the following…
- [Determine] Whether FalconJS can be contributed before Falcon AS is complete
- Plan for when we contribute Falcon AS via Apache
- [Establisn the] Duration of runtime support commitment for Flex applications
- [Decide upon the] Availability and duration of new and renewed Adobe Flex SDK support contracts
- [Evaluate whether they will make] Open source contribution of related technologies:
blazeds.net, server-side AS, LCDS, LCCS, TLF, Gravity, FXG, OSMF
The audience asked about LCDS, LCCS, TLF, FXG, OSMF, etc. on Day 1 and Adobe didn't have an answer. On Day 2 Adobe came back and said they still could not answer. However, they made a todo list of things they would do... that is the list you see above. So, it was on their to-do list to get us final answers on these items, but they didn't say they would give it to Spoon or Apache.
On that list so far, they have finsihed the first 4 tasks as of the Flex whitepaper. For the 5th task, the open source one, they made a commitment on BlazeDS, however, no final answer has been given on the others to the best of my knowledge.
If you want to see it yourself, I believe this is all in the last 45 minutes or so of the videos from day 2.