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Hi Seb,We will have the new service up and running before the Adobe LCCS service is shutdown.Yes, the service will be fully featured including the screen sharing capability.Jeff

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Hi all,We are getting very close to a completed deal with a hosting partner to take over the LCCS service. I had hoped to make an announcement this week as I am going on vacation for the next two weeks, but we are not quite there yet. I have arranged for an announcement to be sent out once the deal closes. In parallel with the work on the agreement we have been working with this partner to prepare them to take over the service. The plan is for them to have their service up and running by October...

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Guides continue to be supported for existing customers. They will be available for two major releases to allow existing customers to upgrade and use them on the new platforms that we support with the new releases. We are working a replacement for wizard-style data capture using HTML that will replace Guides long before they are removed from the product.

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I can't comment on who the partner might be at this point. We are still in active discussions and I'll share more info just as soon as i can.

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Randell,I'll be as transparent as I can. However, this involves a negotiation and legal contract so I can't disclose details until both parties are ready.Jeff

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Hi Randell,You beat me to it. I was going to post an update today since I had a couple of inquiries about the status of things. I don't have much to report at this point other than discussions are ongoing and taking longer than I expected. I still think however that we'll be able to come to an agreement with a hosting partner to take over the service. I will provide more info as soon as I can but it would be premature to do so at this point,Thanks for you continued patience.Jeff

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Sebpatu 2000,The $1000/month limit was chosen based on historical usage and we determined it to be a safe level for all with room to grow. If an increase is required we can do that but all indicators are that it won't be. I think you have nicely enumerated the options we have to consider right now. However, I can't offer up any code that someone else has built on top of FMS. That's really up to them. Another hosting provider or Open Source are the possible options. I don't have much to report on...

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Matt,When I say transition I mean that LCCS won't continue in it's current form as an Adobe hosted services. I'll do my best to preserve as much functionality as possible. The discussions in this forum are helping me understand what's valuable to you.Thanks,Jeff

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Barry,Thanks for this. I may want to pick your brain later in the week.Can you send me your email address. I'm stanier@adobe.comjeff

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Hi Adam+kDo you want to shoot me an email and we can talk next week?jeff

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Hi all,Apologies for the Friday night post and delayed reply -- I've been on the road this week. Please see my latest posting in the LCCS alternatives thread.Jeff

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Hi Thank you all for your candid feedback. I hear you and Adobe hears you and we are taking a look at some other possible options to ease your transition from LCCS. This research will take some time but we will work as quickly as possible. I will post additional information as soon as it is available. Thanks for your continued patience. If you want to have a 1 on 1 conversation with me you can reach me at stanier@adobe.com. I would be happy to setup a time to discuss with you. Jeff

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Hi, I don't know anymore about the authors or context of the Spoon remarks. However, the Flex whitepaper published by Adobe states that we are not contributing LCCS to apache:""Adobe will not be contributing the AIR for Linux SDK, LCDS, or LCCS to Apache. Adobe is still investigating the viability of contributing TLF, BlazeDS.NET, Gravity, FXG, Squiggles, and OSMF.""Whitepaper -- http://www.adobe.com/go/flex_whitepaperI'll post again when I know more about the Spoon statements.Jeff

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Hi Adam,It's not a matter of Adobe not caring. I have not been able to locate a partner that would be willing to take on LCCS as a business. Remember it has to be viable and profitable for anyone to make a business out of it. Part of the infrastructure that LCCS uses is part of the Adobe instrastructure for other product offerings -- particularly the user provisioning and billing. The partner would need to rebuild that in order to support a community of developers. If someone on this forum wants...

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Hi Guys,I'm trying to find out more about the posting from Spoon and will respond when I know more.Jeff

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Hi Glen,I've pinged the FMS team for any additonal resources on getting started with FMS.I'll post them as soon as I receive them.Jeff

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Hi noiboy/MarioThanks for posting this. I just started a similar thread (http://forums.adobe.com/message/4277140#4277140) with a couple of ideas.Jeff

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Hi all,You may have seen an email message earlier today from me describing our plans to shutdown the LCCS service on December 31st. I would like to use this thread for the community to discuss alternatives. There isn't a one-size fits all solution so I think it's useful to talk about a couple of different options. You may discover others on your own so please post them here. To get the discussion started, here's some things I've looked at. Open Source. We have looked at this as an option and it'...

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Hi,We were selling LCCS to enterprise customer under a different licensing program, but have since stopped the sale of that.You should check out this thread - http://forums.adobe.com/message/4110049#4110049 for a discussion on this.Jeff

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Hi,Sorry for the delay. I just saw this post. As I said in the other link you mentioned, I don't have have any final conclusions. But, if you can explore other options I recommend pursuing those. We already know that we will not be making further engineering investments in LCCS.Jeff

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Hi Guys,Me again. Adobe is not completely pulling support for Flash. I don't work on the Flash platform team, so I won't speak for them.Have you seen this post which describes our plans for Flash - http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplatform/2011/11/flash-to-focus-on-pc-browsing-and-mobile-apps-adobe-to-more-aggressively-contribute-to-html5.htmlJeff

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Yup, I totally get it. Again sorry for the delay.I'll work on getting an update out soon.Jeff

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Matt/Josh,I appreciate that you are passionate about LCCS. I'm trying to find viable alternatives and that's why it's taking longer than expected. As you know the service is still running today, we are not going to suddenly shut it off. So as of today, nothing has changed. However, as I said earlier, we are not enhancing LCCS further. I believe Surya was looking for an honest answer and recommendation and in this case it sounds like FMS might be a viable alternative for a new project.I'd prefer ...

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Hi Surya,I'm still working through some of this and will try to get more information out shortly. I apologize for the delay, it's taking longer than I anticipated. My recommendation is to explore other options as we are not doing any enhancements to LCCS. FMS4.5 would be a good option for you to explore.Jeff

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Hi,No, Forms are not nearing their end of life. Adobe VP and GM Arun Anantharaman who is responsible for the LiveCycle business recently reaffirmed our commitment to the product https://blogs.adobe.com/ADEP/2012/01/the-future-of-livecycle.htmlWhat may be confusing you is the support period for a particular version of the product. Our support policy is 5 years of core support with 2 years of available extended support from the day the product starts shipping.We do publish our support periods for ...

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Julien is right, this is a bit off topic. However I can say that we are continuing our investment in Livecycle Designer and RE. If you are a LiveCycle server product customer and you need more information you can contact me directly at stanier@adobe.com.Jeff

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Hi Mickey79,We are still accepting credit card purchases at this point, but are not accepting any large enterprise customers deals at this point. The enterprise deals are a type of volume license - direct contracts with Adobe.The review will take a couple of more weeks. Adobe is shutdown for the holidays right now.Jeff

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Antonio,Like Raff said we have not made any changes with respect to accepting paid memberships. It sounds like a bug. Please start a separate thread.Jeff

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I will look into both the source code option as well as dates for termination. Right now we do not have plans to stop the service. We will provide significant notice if we do decide to shut the service down.

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Hi, I'm Jeff Stanier Group Product Manager for LiveCycle and I am now responsible for LCCS.As part of Adobe’s strategy to focus on digital marketing and digital media, we are in the process of evaluating each of our products and services to determine if they are aligned to the company strategy. LCCS is one of those services going through evaluation. We will continue to support the existing paying customers that are already using LCCS. However, we can confirm that at this point we are not accepti...

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