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Hi

Thank you all for your candid feedback.  I hear you and Adobe hears you and we are taking a look at some other possible options to ease your transition from LCCS. This research will take some time but we will work as quickly as possible.  I will post additional information as soon as it is available. Thanks for your continued patience.  If you want to have a 1 on 1 conversation with me you can reach me at stanier@adobe.com.  I would be happy to setup a time to discuss with you.

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Thanks Jeff,

The fact that you are looking at possible options is great news. This is wholeheartedly appreciated.

One additional aspect I'd like to add to the conversation is that if Adobe has costs/losses associated with keeping the service up and running, the developement community should be polled about our willingness to pay more for the service. I'm sure there are people in the same position as myself who had planned for much greater use of the service once our products have gone into production. There may be other cost structures, including a simple rate increase, that would enable Adobe to keep it running for an extension of the currently planned shutdown schedule without that cost burden.

I'm not sure how relevant this suggestion is, but my point is that if bottom line cost is an issue, we should explore solutions.

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Barry,

Thanks for this.   I may want to pick your brain later in the week.

Can you send me your email address.  I'm stanier@adobe.com

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thank you jeff for some encouraging news.  it's good to know that some discussion is still possible here. 

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Hi Jeff,

Thanks for starting this thread.

Are you saying that LCCS is built on top of FMS "ALONE" ?

Or is it that FMS is one of the peices in the puzzle?

For supporting large number of user, one node solution will be a no no for us.

We definitely need to have some clustered solution.

My first impression was that there is LCDS/BlazeDS also somewhere in the puzzle and you

use that to cluster your servers.

Anyway, I would like to know how we can do the clustering, load balancing and failovers?

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Thanks for the reassuring news Jeff!  When you say "ease the transition from LCCS", you mean transition from the brand and not the functionality, right?

And I would have no problem paying more for the service bandwidth as well!

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In response to amma-adobe,

FMS is just one component of LCCS, but FMS does not do it's own load balancing and fail over.

Some of the components required for LCCS fail-over are technologies that require a license. This is another complication as far as open sourcing is concerned I would think.

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I have been developing for a while on a new project with LCCS.  Having heard on the potential demise of it, I have a few pointers for potential alternatives.

If you just need shared data (not video, not screen sharing),  I really like union server: http://www.unionplatform.com/

If you want free, open source (I haven't found much on the flex side, but a lot on the server side) : http://www.bigbluebutton.org/    <- This has some awesome possibilities for a good LCCS migration.  I think if we all pitch in, we could probably convert it straight across with the Flex LCCS libraries we have.  Red5 does not do RTMFP, however.

Last but not least is Wowza & FMS.  An excellent comparison chart can be found here: http://askmeflash.com/article/10/comparison-wowza-vs-fms-vs-red5

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26-03-2012

Jeff,

Is there any way you think you can talk Adobe into allowing us to use the LCCS libraries on the flex side?  So we can ignore:

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This will allow us to create some migrations easier.

Thanks!

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The only reason my company decided to invest in LCCS was the ability to do remote viewing and controling.  Does anyone know of an alternative that allows for this?