I did try that, and really liked it except - I need the forms coming back with scripting changes intact. I'm trying to find out if there is a way for that to happen. I have set manual for "preserve scripting chages for form when saved", I have tried to set restorestate properties via script and delta scripts. They all act the same when going through acrobat.com. FYI, when getting form via email, the scripting chages are preserved.