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Amelia_Waliany
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Amelia_WalianyAdobe Employee
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June 4, 2020

[AT Community Q&A Coffee Break] 6/10: David Son, Adobe Target Product Manager

  • June 4, 2020
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Join us for our next Adobe Target Community Q&A Coffee Break, 

taking place Wednesday, June 10th @ 10am PDT

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We'll be joined by David Son aka @davidsonpm, Adobe Target Product Manager, who will be signed in here to the Adobe Target Community to chat directly with you on this thread about your Adobe Target questions pertaining to her areas of expertise:

  • At.js
  • Mobile
  • Alloy
  • APIs 

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A NOTE FROM NEXT WEEK'S COMMUNITY Q&A COFFEE BREAK EXPERT, DAVID SON 

REQUIREMENTS TO PARTICIPATE 

  • Must be signed in to the Community during the 1-hour period
  • Must post a Question about Adobe Target
  • THAT'S IT!  *(think of this as the Adobe Target Community equivalent of an AMA, (“Ask Me Anything”), and bring your best speed-typing game)

INSTRUCTIONS 

  • Click the blue “Reply” button at the bottom right corner of this post
  • Begin your Question with @davidsonpm 
  • When exchanging messages with David about your specific question, be sure to use the editor’s "QUOTE" button, which will indicate which post you're replying to, and will help contain your conversation with David 

 

 

 

 

 

David Son is a product manager for Adobe Target where he leads product strategy for mobile, APIs, and SDKs. He holds a B.A. in Computer Science from the University of California, Berkeley and is based in San Francisco, California.

 

Curious about what an Adobe Target Community Q&A Coffee Break looks like? Check out the thread from our last break with Shannon Hamilton, Senior Adobe Target Product Manager

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14 replies

DavidSonPM
DavidSonPM
Level 3
June 10, 2020

Hi everyone! Welcome to the coffee break. Really excited to answer your questions!

    T
    target_user_dn
    June 10, 2020

    Hi David,

     

    I have a question on estimating Automated Personalization traffic:

     

    The Adobe Help pages says, "Ideally, for a successful activity, the correct sample size ensures that personalized content is ready within 50% of the activity duration or 14 days, whichever is less. This allows sufficient time for obtaining personalized content and learning which content to deliver."

     

    For example, if the activity duration is 10 days, does this mean the traffic estimator shows the sample size needed to run in 5 days?

      Nicolas_Swisscom
      Nicolas_Swisscom
      Level 3
      June 10, 2020

      @davidsonpm: Can you share a bit about the roadmap for Mobile SDK? The VEC for mobile Apps has "gone". Any new exciting stuff coming?

        DavidSonPM
        DavidSonPM
        Level 3
        June 10, 2020
        @nicolas_swisscom wrote:

        @davidsonpm: Can you share a bit about the roadmap for Mobile SDK? The VEC for mobile Apps has "gone". Any new exciting stuff coming?

        Hi! For users who want to execute personalization and experimentation on mobile apps, Target has a powerful and flexible utility called form-based composer. This allows customers to deploy activities with the added flexibility for choosing response types like JSON and images that allow developers to pursue advanced use cases that revolve around feature-flagging. We are looking at ways where we can enhance the form-based composer so that customers can deploy activities with more ease for their mobile apps.

          K
          krispnguyen
          June 10, 2020

          Hi David, 

           

          At.js 2x stops support these parameters for Audience Creation:

          • browserHeight
          • browserWidth
          • browserTimeOffset
          • screenHeight
          • screenWidth
          • screenOrientation
          • colorDepth
          • devicePixelRatio

          The Consulting team found a way to manually add these params under targetPageParams to target these in audience creation. My question is: Why was it not supported in at.js 2x OOTB and will there be a plan to allow these params to work in Audience Creation?

           

            DavidSonPM
            DavidSonPM
            Level 3
            June 10, 2020
            @krispnguyen wrote:

            Hi David, 

             

            At.js 2x stops support these parameters for Audience Creation:

            • browserHeight
            • browserWidth
            • browserTimeOffset
            • screenHeight
            • screenWidth
            • screenOrientation
            • colorDepth
            • devicePixelRatio

            The Consulting team found a way to manually add these params under targetPageParams to target these in audience creation. My question is: Why was it not supported in at.js 2x OOTB and will there be a plan to allow these params to work in Audience Creation?

             

            Hi, these parameters were supported in At.js 1.x, however At.js 2.x is now powered by a completely new API and so passing params will not work. We are looking at ways where we can add these params to audience creation instead.

              Nicolas_Swisscom
              Nicolas_Swisscom
              Level 3
              June 10, 2020

              @davidsonpm: There seems to be some confusion about "Adobe Mobile Services" which includes Analytics, Places, DeepLinks, Push Notifications and in-App Messaging. We are wondering if this will continue to exist or be replaced or simply be "retired"? Adobe was recommending to use AppFlyer regarding the DeepLinks feature but I get a lot of questions from colleagues if and when "Adobe Mobile Services" will stop to exist?

                DavidSonPM
                DavidSonPM
                Level 3
                June 10, 2020
                @nicolas_swisscom wrote:

                @davidsonpm: There seems to be some confusion about "Adobe Mobile Services" which includes Analytics, Places, DeepLinks, Push Notifications and in-App Messaging. We are wondering if this will continue to exist or be replaced or simply be "retired"? Adobe was recommending to use AppFlyer regarding the DeepLinks feature but I get a lot of questions from colleagues if and when "Adobe Mobile Services" will stop to exist?

                Unfortunately I do not lead Adobe Mobile Services so won't be able to give much meaningful guidance here.

                  Nicolas_Swisscom
                  Nicolas_Swisscom
                  Level 3
                  June 10, 2020

                  Who could I contact regarding "Adobe Mobile Services" to find out more?

                    Amelia_Waliany
                    Adobe Employee
                    Amelia_WalianyAdobe EmployeeAuthor
                    Adobe Employee
                    June 10, 2020

                    Hi @davidsonpm, do you have any advice for customers on how a Json Offer can be retrieved from a Target API? Any outstanding key points to know would be really helpful! (this question was originally posted by fellow Adobe Target Community member @ms2654434 😊)

                     

                    DavidSonPM
                    DavidSonPM
                    Level 3
                    June 10, 2020
                    @amelia_waliany wrote:

                    Hi @davidsonpm, do you have any advice for customers on how a Json Offer can be retrieved from a Target API? Any outstanding key points to know would be really helpful! 

                     

                    Yes, absolutely. Our Target APIs allow developers to execute advanced experimentation use cases such as feature flagging which allows you to test algorithms, entire layout redesigns, and conversion flows. Developers can use our Delivery API to retrieve these JSON offers which can contain feature flags. For example, if I want to test a new search algorithm, you can create a JSON offer with "search_algorithm_feature":"algorithm-1" and utilize Target for decisioning. When calling the Delivery API for a given mbox, you can look at the "content" field to retrieve the flag as you see in the file attached.

                     

                      Amelia_Waliany
                      Adobe Employee
                      Amelia_WalianyAdobe EmployeeAuthor
                      Adobe Employee
                      June 10, 2020

                      Hi @davidsonpm How can we optimize Target's performance when integrating with the server-side?

                      DavidSonPM
                      DavidSonPM
                      Level 3
                      June 10, 2020
                      @amelia_waliany wrote:

                      Hi @davidsonpm How can we optimize Target's performance when integrating with the server-side?

                      Great question. Adobe Target allows developers to use prefetch so that experiences can be retrieved from Target ahead of time and cached on the browser or mobile app so that the rendering and execution of the experience on a channel can be done immediately when the end user interacts with your application. When the prefetched experience from Target is rendered, developers can send a notification call to Target to increment reporting data.

                        Amelia_Waliany
                        Adobe Employee
                        Amelia_WalianyAdobe EmployeeAuthor
                        Adobe Employee
                        June 10, 2020

                        Hi @davidsonpm this question was originally posted by fellow Adobe Target Community member, @umamaheswari_yakkala 😊: Can we use the Adobe Target API to create audiences from 3rd party tools other than the Adobe module?

                         

                        DavidSonPM
                        DavidSonPM
                        Level 3
                        June 10, 2020
                        @amelia_waliany wrote:

                        Hi @davidsonpm this question was originally posted by fellow Adobe Target Community member, @umamaheswari_yakkala 😊: Can we use the Adobe Target API to create audiences from 3rd party tools other than the Adobe module?

                         

                        You can use our Admin API to create Audiences that are sent to Adobe Target so that we can understand which activity to show your end user. One thing you can do is translate your audience definition from your 3rd party tool to what Adobe can understand and allows for in the Admin API to create an audience. This will ensure the audience resolution for your activities are done correctly and your users see the right experience.

                          Amelia_Waliany
                          Adobe Employee
                          Amelia_WalianyAdobe EmployeeAuthor
                          Adobe Employee
                          June 10, 2020

                          Hi @davidsonpm, this question was originally posted by fellow Adobe Target Community member, @mezpahlan 😊: How to get Target Preview working with new AEP library? 

                          I'm trying to get Target Previews working with the new AEP library for Target. Previously we were using the v4 Mobile Library:

                           

                          com.adobe.mobile:adobeMobileLibrary:4.y.z

                           Now we're trying to migrate to the new AEP SDKs:

                          implementation "com.adobe.marketing.mobile:sdk-core:1.y.z"
                          implementation "com.adobe.marketing.mobile:analytics:1.y.z"
                          implementation "com.adobe.marketing.mobile:userprofile:1.y.z"
                          implementation "com.adobe.marketing.mobile:mobileservices:1.y.z"
                          implementation "com.adobe.marketing.mobile:target:1.y.z"

                           

                          The documentation https://docs.adobe.com/content/help/en/target/using/implement-target/mobile-apps/target-mobile-previ... says this: 

                           

                          Android: In the app , call Config.trackAdobeDeepLink(URL); when the caller is asked to open the resource with the URL scheme that was specified in the previous step. 

                           

                          Which worked fine when we were using the v4 Mobile Library, but I can't seem to do that with the new libraries. What's the new recommended way to continue to use Target Preview? Or is there an alternative?

                          DavidSonPM
                          DavidSonPM
                          Level 3
                          June 10, 2020
                          @amelia_waliany wrote:

                          Hi @davidsonpm, this question was originally posted by fellow Adobe Target Community member, @mezpahlan 😊: How to get Target Preview working with new AEP library? 

                          I'm trying to get Target Previews working with the new AEP library for Target. Previously we were using the v4 Mobile Library:

                           

                          com.adobe.mobile:adobeMobileLibrary:4.y.z

                           Now we're trying to migrate to the new AEP SDKs:

                          implementation "com.adobe.marketing.mobile:sdk-core:1.y.z"
                          implementation "com.adobe.marketing.mobile:analytics:1.y.z"
                          implementation "com.adobe.marketing.mobile:userprofile:1.y.z"
                          implementation "com.adobe.marketing.mobile:mobileservices:1.y.z"
                          implementation "com.adobe.marketing.mobile:target:1.y.z"

                           

                          The documentation https://docs.adobe.com/content/help/en/target/using/implement-target/mobile-apps/target-mobile-previ... says this: 

                           

                          Android: In the app , call Config.trackAdobeDeepLink(URL); when the caller is asked to open the resource with the URL scheme that was specified in the previous step. 

                           

                          Which worked fine when we were using the v4 Mobile Library, but I can't seem to do that with the new libraries. What's the new recommended way to continue to use Target Preview? Or is there an alternative?

                          Please review this documentation for preview support in v5 - https://aep-sdks.gitbook.io/docs/using-mobile-extensions/adobe-target#visual-preview

                          Amelia_Waliany
                          Adobe Employee
                          Amelia_WalianyAdobe EmployeeAuthor
                          Adobe Employee
                          June 10, 2020

                          Hi @davidsonpm! Given your areas of expertise in Adobe Target, what are some areas you've been working on recently that you're excited about? 

                          And where can people go to hear about them? 

                          DavidSonPM
                          DavidSonPM
                          Level 3
                          June 10, 2020
                          @amelia_waliany wrote:

                          Hi @davidsonpm! Given your areas of expertise in Adobe Target, what are some areas you've been working on recently that you're excited about? 

                          And where can people go to hear about them? 

                          We are really excited about our ability to help customers personalize across channels via our Web, Mobile, Java, and Node.js SDKs. 

                           

                          We are also working on some exciting initiatives where we can tremendously optimize performance in our SDKs. We are hoping for a zero-latency decisioning approach. Stay tuned for more!

                          Nicolas_Swisscom
                          Nicolas_Swisscom
                          Level 3
                          June 10, 2020

                          @davidsonpm: Does Alloy.js make at.js obsolete? When should we consider what?

                          DavidSonPM
                          DavidSonPM
                          Level 3
                          June 10, 2020
                          @nicolas_swisscom wrote:

                          @davidsonpm: Does Alloy.js make at.js obsolete? When should we consider what?

                          Alloy.js doesn't make at.js obsolete at this time. However, the long term goal is to have all Target customers leverage Alloy.js in the future. A good time to consider Alloy.js would be when a customer is ready to leverage AEP.

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