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Amelia_Waliany
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
May 18, 2020

[AT Community Q&A Coffee Break] 5/27: Shannon Hamilton, Senior Adobe Target Product Manager

  • May 18, 2020
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Join us for our next Adobe Target Community Q&A Coffee Break

taking place Wednesday, May 27th @ 10am PDT

👨‍💻☕👩‍💻--> REGISTER NOW <-- 👨‍💻☕👩‍💻

We'll be joined by Shannon Hamilton aka @shannonhamiltonpm, Senior Adobe Target Product Manager, who will be signed in here to the Adobe Target Community to chat directly with you on this thread about your Adobe Target questions pertaining to her areas of expertise:

  • Adobe Target user interface,
  • A/B Testing and Experience Targeting (XT)
  • Offers libraries, Activity lists, Audiences libraries
  • Integrations: i.e. Adobe Analytics (A4T), Adobe Experience Manager Experience Fragments, Audience Manager audiences, and Adobe Experience Platform integrations

 

Want us to send you a calendar invitation so you don’t forget? Register now to receive a reminder!

A NOTE FROM NEXT WEEK'S COMMUNITY Q&A COFFEE BREAK EXPERT, SHANNON HAMILTON 

REQUIREMENTS TO PARTICIPATE 

  • Must be signed in to the Community during the 1-hour period
  • Must post a Question about Adobe Target
  • THAT'S IT!

*(think of this as the Adobe Target Community equivalent of an AMA, (“Ask Me Anything”), and bring your best speed-typing game)

INSTRUCTIONS 

  • Click the blue “Reply” button at the bottom right corner of this post
  • Begin your Question with @shannonhamiltonpm
  • When exchanging messages with Shannon about your specific question, be sure to use the editor’s "QUOTE" button, which will indicate which post you're replying to, and will help contain your conversation with Shannon

 

 

Shannon supports the end-to-end marketer UI, as well as Target’s authoring APIs and cross Adobe Experience Cloud integrations. Her mandate includes developing Target's integration with AEP's Unified Profile. Previously, she was responsible for the machine learning / AI capabilities within Target, including ML-based personalization and ML-enhanced testing. Shannon holds an MBA from the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University, where she specialized in data science and marketing.

 

Curious about what an Adobe Target Community Q&A Coffee Break looks like? Check out the thread from our first break with Kimen Warner, Director of Adobe Target Product Management 

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23 replies

ShannonHamiltonPM
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
May 27, 2020

Hi all! 

 

Looking forward to answering your burning Target questions. 

 

Shannon 

Level 2
May 27, 2020

Good morning and thanks for taking time out of your day for us!

How do you handle tests where the numbers, be it audience, conversion rate or lift, are low and causes the test to take a long time? I'm talking years

ShannonHamiltonPM
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
May 27, 2020

@1649 there are a few approaches you can use. 

 

  • Expanding the audience size that you have entering your activity
  • Use a conversion metric "higher in the funnel" to increase the amount of power in your data (AKA the number of conversions)
  • Decrease the number of experiences you are trying to test 
  • Consider if you are comfortable with a different confidence interval. Would you be OK with 80% instead of 95%? Then you need less data to detect the same difference
Adobe Employee
May 27, 2020

Hello Target community!  Jason here from the Target product team as well - looking forward to the coffee break! 

Level 2
May 27, 2020

Hi Shannon,

Do you recommend using Audience Library segments over profile scripts for Target? How do you decide which to use?

Adobe Employee
May 27, 2020

Hi, @cjara1  - Most use cases are likely solved through the Audience Library - especially now that we've added the ability to combine multiple audiences and build out AND/OR/NOT logic inside of your audiences or audience combinations.  Profile Scripts are great for when you need to do mathematical operations, simple programming loops, or just need access to raw code to tweak your audience to do exactly what you want!  Some examples there are building out affinity scores based on page engagement, or counting certain interactions in the Target profile.  

 


@cjara1 wrote:

Hi Shannon,

Do you recommend using Audience Library segments over profile scripts for Target? How do you decide which to use?


 

Level 2
May 27, 2020

Thanks, Jason.

What's the best method to debug an Audience Library segment? Is there a way to debug it live or through the AEC debugger?

aseemp97838257
Level 2
May 27, 2020

A little confused with the below feedback from Adobe - we want to present Geo specific  content on our AEM pages but the below says to use Target

 

ADOBE'S RECOMMENDATION:

 

If you have purchased Adobe Target and are able to create activities within Target we DO NOT recommend using AEM to build those activities.  Building targeted activities directly within AEM will most definitely lead to performance degradation on the instance because of the JS required to render the targeted content.  This will occur even if you have implemented redirects on your pages.  The instance may not be noticeably impacted at first, but over time after continuous targeted content authoring, performance degradation is inevitable.

 

The issue with the above is the logistics of doing Geo AND Tests on same pages

ShannonHamiltonPM
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
May 27, 2020

@aseemp97838257 wrote:

A little confused with the below feedback from Adobe - we want to present Geo specific  content on our AEM pages but the below says to use Target

 

ADOBE'S RECOMMENDATION:

 

If you have purchased Adobe Target and are able to create activities within Target we DO NOT recommend using AEM to build those activities.  Building targeted activities directly within AEM will most definitely lead to performance degradation on the instance because of the JS required to render the targeted content.  This will occur even if you have implemented redirects on your pages.  The instance may not be noticeably impacted at first, but over time after continuous targeted content authoring, performance degradation is inevitable.

 

The issue with the above is the logistics of doing Geo AND Tests on same pages


Generally, we recommend using Target directly instead of via AEM where possible. You can combine tests and having different geo versions directly within your Target A/B activity. Both your needs would be covered in your activity by having different versions of each experience that have a geo-based audience associated with them. See: https://docs.adobe.com/content/help/en/target/using/activities/abtest/create/target-experience-to-multiple-audiences.html

aseemp97838257
Level 2
May 27, 2020

Thx Shannon,

 

So how do we do this for 100's of Markets?   Setting it up and managing in Target would be a challenge - is there a table lookup option for target?

 

Thoughts

 

thx

Aseem

 

May 27, 2020

@ShannonHamiltonPM - Our company is fairly new to target.  Can you help with some use cases you've seen for using the scripting functionality in target?

jonathanl557422
Level 2
May 27, 2020

Hi. For A4T, are there plans to include the Target conversions in analytics when the Target activity's goal has been configured as clicking a specific element (element has not been tagged in analytics)? Selecting to view the Target activity in analytics in this instance just shows the qualified traffic metrics and not the conversion.

 

Edit: I stand corrected. The conversions are available in analytics. Lift and confidence are still not.

ShannonHamiltonPM
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
May 27, 2020

Hi Jonathan,

 

We don't have a plan for passing in the clicked an element data to Analytics at the moment. I would recommend you post about it in the "ideas" section of the community so others can vote on it. I (and the rest of the PM team) review the community frequently for the top requests. 

 

We are expanding A4T support with allowing for lift and confidence in Analysis workspace, which will be helpful.  

 


@jonathanl557422 wrote:

Hi. For A4T, are there plans to include the Target conversions in analytics when the Target activity's goal has been configured as clicking a specific element (element has not been tagged in analytics)? Selecting to view the Target activity in analytics in this instance just shows the qualified traffic metrics and not the conversion.


 

aseemp97838257
Level 2
May 27, 2020

Is there a way to create multiple (more than 3) experiences on the SAME url with only querystring differences?   Note the Querystring is not always in the same location.

May 27, 2020

@ShannonHamiltonPM

When will A4T be enabled for Auto-Target and AP Campaigns to perform further analysis in Adobe Analytics?

Adobe Employee
May 27, 2020

@juliansam1 - A4T is being enhanced for both Auto-Allocate and Auto-Target throughout our June and summer releases.  Additionally, we are bringing A4T lift and confidence in to Analysis Workspace across the same time period!   Automated Personalization will continue to use Adobe Target as the data source for personalization.   

 

As we have the release dates established, check out our pre-release notes here to stay informed!

 


@juliansam1 wrote:

@ShannonHamiltonPM

When will A4T be enabled for Auto-Target and AP Campaigns to perform further analysis in Adobe Analytics?


 

May 27, 2020

Hi Shannon,

 

Thank you for this initiative. Am new to Adobe target, are there a detailed documentation on how to interpret the metrics data that we collect in Adobe Target.

ShannonHamiltonPM
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
May 27, 2020

@sath wrote:

Hi Shannon,

 

Thank you for this initiative. Am new to Adobe target, are there a detailed documentation on how to interpret the metrics data that we collect in Adobe Target.


Hi Sath,

 

Welcome to the Target community! We have robust reporting depending on which activity type you are using.

 

Here is the overall topic:   https://docs.adobe.com/content/help/en/target/using/reports/reports.html

 

Here is a helpful article on conversion and confidence: https://docs.adobe.com/content/help/en/target/using/reports/conversion-rate.html

 

Here is an article with reporting FAQs: https://docs.adobe.com/content/help/en/target/using/reports/reporting-frequently-asked-questions.html

 

 

nicholasr284932
Level 2
May 27, 2020

Hey Shannon,

 I've recently re-implemented target and went from my old multiple mboxes setup (global,home,pdp, etc) to a single global mbox as recommended by the adobe documentation. What are the advantages of the single global mbox? It feels like it just made page template targeting slightly more complex. Also, how long will Target still support the old multiple mboxes setup?

 

Thanks for your time today!

Adobe Employee
May 27, 2020

Great question @6590328 - we fully support the legacy setup and in fact continue to support it in the latest Experience Platform SDK (alloy.js) which unifies data collection for all Experience Cloud applications.  You can learn more about that release here: https://docs.adobe.com/content/help/en/platform-learn/tutorials/data-ingestion/web-sdk/introduction-to-web-sdk-and-edge-network.html

 

Generally we find that one service call to Adobe is preferable than multiple calls, even if those calls are asynchronous.  The chief benefit of a single Adobe call for Adobe Target is that you can batch all of your experiments and personalization acitivites together with a call and response per page (or even pre-fetch actions with our AT.JS 2.0 branch for Single Page Apps) which greatly improves your performance and allows for experience changes to be fetched from a visitor's local memory, not our servers.   It also allows you to deploy rapidly on new properties and have a "global" reach for any part of any page. 


@nicholasr284932 wrote:

Hey Shannon,

 I've recently re-implemented target and went from my old multiple mboxes setup (global,home,pdp, etc) to a single global mbox as recommended by the adobe documentation. What are the advantages of the single global mbox? It feels like it just made page template targeting slightly more complex. Also, how long will Target still support the old multiple mboxes setup?

 

Thanks for your time today!