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amybillmayer
Level 4
May 11, 2022
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What is going on with Workfront???

  • May 11, 2022
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Is it just me or is Workfront extra whack lately? I'm submitting support tickets CONSTANTLY ...

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Christina_Jarosz
Level 9
May 26, 2022

Hi Ben - this is hard for me to read. See my feedback in bold. I appreciate your contribution regardless.

Hey All!

Thank you so much for participating in the community. I'm Ben Robbins, one of the Product Leads with Workfront and wanted to recognize that we've heard your feedback. We are always grateful to hear from our customers and their experiences with the Adobe Workfront . - Multiple WF team members have commented on this thread. We are aware you have 'heard' us. Please tell us what you are doing with this information. It's not a matter of 'hearing' us it's a matter of what you are doing with this information.

With the transition to the New Workfront Experience we have moved carefully to ensure the optimal experience for our customers. To create a future ready and quality experience, some tough choices had to be made and not every functionality was migrated nor will every feature work at complete parity with classic. These decisions are generating favorable results. - The NWE has been rolled out for almost two years or so. We were instructed to bring our team members over NOW because Classic would be going away. This was encouraged despite the degradation of performance customers have detailed.

From a performance perspective we’ve seen improvement in the overall operation of the New Workfront experience. One highlight to call out would be a 32% year over year performance increase in the top 25 most visited pages by our customers. We're coupling those improvements by monitoring customer reported experience around tasks and lists. - What performance metrics are you measuring this again? Is it 32% over all users, just certain pages, just certain parts of the program, etc.? Providing this metric seems like a red herring without any insight into what this information is referencing.

We welcome opportunities to discuss your experience in further depth so please reach out to your customer success manager or support for further dialogue. - This part in particular is challenging to me. Is there a SLA on when you expect an item to be resolved with a customer calls you? For instance, is more than 3+ calls about the same issue, more than 6+ calls, more than 10 emails feel like a sufficient use of time by your customers? Is there a SLA for an expectation of when or how long a problem should exist before it's an escalation? I don't submit tickets any more because frankly spending call after call after call is not productive.

We've had three? four? "Customer Success Managers' in the past three years. Our last I did not even get notice left the company so I reached out to their boss and she ALSO left the company.

I know some of these things can be accounted to 'growing pains' and I am not one for being negative nelly. However, it seems the community is the only true way to get anything acted upon.

You may not have intended your response to be but it came across as very patronizing without providing any real specific instances of addressing the issues.

Adobe Employee
May 26, 2022

Thanks @Christina Jarosz‚ and @Randy Roberts‚ for responding. The sort of information you're sharing helps us identify the areas where problems exist, so we can investigate and improve them. While we've seen NWE have measurable improvement in stability and performance compared to classic overall, there are undoubtedly some pages that need more improvement. The information you're sharing around browsers, specific pages, etc really helps us narrow in on those issues.

I understand your points about support, and we'll work with them to have easier channels to report your issues. With that in mind, please do continue to reach out to support, engage your account teams, etc, so we can continue to get the visibility we need (technical information, screenshots, etc) that can help us find problems, even if we can't repro them internally. We have customer support items that we address as the top priorities in our roadmap, so continuing to work with us through those channels will help make sure the problems do get escalated from root cause analysis to product improvement.

RandyRoberts
Community Advisor
Community Advisor
May 27, 2022

Unfortunately support is helpless to fix this stuff as it is based on faulty code, corrupt data, lack of QA, etc. The engineers are overwhelmed with trying to migrate data (probably the cause of most of these recent bugs) and keeping their heads above water and meanwhile your customers are struggling with the consequences of these bad decisions.

Saying "We're working on it" doesn't "pay the bills".

I think customers will remain unsatisfied until they see some actual fixes… if they're still customers by then.

Level 2
May 31, 2022

Nope, it's not just you. We used to have a ticket or two a month (if that) back Classic, but now we sometimes have multiple tickets open per week! We feel as they are going backwards with this "New Experience" rather than moving forward. I constantly get reports from users on bugs and sporadic functionality issues. With years under their belts with this New Experience, it seems like it would be super stable by now. We are still waiting for the day for it to work correctly...very frustrating as this platform should be going forward, and not in reverse.

JohnJOSullivan
Level 5
May 31, 2022

Me: Workfront is acting very weird and flaky lately.

Proof API: Hold my beer.

Christina_Jarosz
Level 9
June 2, 2022

Winner of the internet right here!

Level 4
June 1, 2022

I don't necessarily agree this is a 'New Experience' issue since we had no problems until the Adobe merge and I wonder if it's migration issues.

RandyRoberts
Community Advisor
Community Advisor
June 1, 2022

While you are correct in that assessment, this is just the latest round of failures. There were existing problems with NWE for the past year or 2 (white screens, multiple refreshes required, partial screen redraws, etc.) that have not been resolved and this latest round of issues is layered on top of that. This compounds the frustration and buyers remorse a lot of us are feeling right now.

Workfront reliability was already precarious since NWE and now with the data (and probably code) migration, it takes reliability to a new even lower low.

Kelly_Wehrmann
Level 9
June 1, 2022

Have to agree with you @Randy Roberts‚ ...

When this new UI rolled out a couple of years ago, there were a lot of issues with the UI (you mentioned above), which is why we never migrated until now. I was hoping a lot of this would have been cleaned up before we made the move, but not such luck. With the plug being pulled on Classic in July, we've been forced to migrate. We have everyone migrated, its just sad to see some of the same issues still around after this much time has gone by.

Today I attempted to add 5 new tasks to a project via inline add task functionality. The first 3 seemed ok, but the last 2 weren't. The font on the last 2 appeared "gray" for a while like they system was still trying to process the add request. After several minutes they didn't change. I refreshed my browser window (because it seems like you have to do this constantly in the new UI) and neither of them appeared in the task last at all. So I went ahead and added them again. These 2 added with no problem. I refreshed my browser window again and all of the sudden the other 2 (that I thought failed) were now visible. Not sure where they had gone or why it took them so long to show up. Just had to shake my head and keep working. I had no screenshots, so no point in opening a support ticket, plus I've spent more time on tickets the last few weeks than I should be.

laurence_jayawardane
Level 4
June 1, 2022

We are seeing similar issues here also...

Christina_Jarosz
Level 9
June 6, 2022

Today's embarrassing issue - we recently have went through a company wide rebrand. When the brand launched 05/02 we made a full branding update throughout Workfront.

Today I'm getting alerts that our Corporate marketing team is seeing our OLD branding - and old logos. Our executive management is irritated.

Branding is system wide - not by template, user, etc. It's all or nothing for everyone. Submitting a ticket but anyone have any suggestions? Yes, cleared our caches etc.

RandyRoberts
Community Advisor
Community Advisor
June 6, 2022

I see a bunch of old filters from Classic that were deleted long ago when I'm sharing filters. I've also recently seen teams in a project list and projects in a tasks list, etc.

It should be emabarrassing but I don't think they're embarrassed at all. I'm embarrassed because it reflects poorly on me for defending Workfront everytime corporate questions it's value… no longer.

Christina_Jarosz
Level 9
June 6, 2022

FYI - Another notable issue. In setting up a new user, we always always ALWAYS require SSO.

Editing the user later in the day I see that the SSO requirement has been toggled off and is now not part of the SSO.

Submitted a ticket.

puhoneya
Level 2
June 6, 2022

My system admins and I were so relieved to see this thread when it popped up. When I reached out to our WF account executive on May 11 saying "I don't know what Adobe is doing to the solution I used to love but this is becoming untenable" we were told we were the only ones that had reported having any kind of problems. I was at my wit's end as basic settings (task statuses and task status defaults) were no longer working properly, I could no longer edit reports that I had created a few years ago without the logic breaking, etc. We were told it was a "speed" issue on our end (uh, really????), advised to stop trying to edit old reports, told to rebuild complex reports (that were constructed with custom text mode additions), etc. It was very frustrating and angry making. We were told -- as if we were newbies who didn't know what we were talking about -- to "take advantage" of "inexpensive" ($250/hour) paid help hours to troubleshoot our problems (!!!) when those are useless when you have functionality issues. I personally was fine with the temporary slowdown issues we had when we migrated from Classic to NWE (seemed like they miscalculated a server load -- not great, but it did improve over time), but this is something bigger -- I think this "culling" of functionality is really just awful, and I blame Adobe. I also think their "Summit" was a complete joke; didn't learn a thing. Was finally hoping to make it to a live LEAP after all these years. I also think that this whole idea of just getting rid of the "lesser used" features really is insulting to people like us who chose WF because it was very close to an enterprise solution and promised to be able to fulfill all our custom needs. Bah.

Level 10
June 7, 2022

I attended my first "LEAP" as the virtual version during the pandemic (was free, company wouldn't pay to send me to the Live ones), but that was also just after Adobe took over. I was very, VERY disappointed at the heavy-handed Adobe presence and wasting time in each seminar hawking Adobe products and integrations. I heard the live ones were fun and had a great sense of comraderie. Shame I missed those days.

Then, Adobe absorbed the Lion awards into the Adobe-wide awards, diluting the ability of Workfront-only users to really have a crack at them and making Workfront's community feel less special…just another cog in the great Adobe machine.

I didn't attend the conference this year…I assumed it would be more of the same. I get more out of the Community here.

What's really annoying is I dislike Adobe, not the WF devs. I've been working with the Beta devs, talked to folks on the Armenian teams, and they all seem like good, enthusiastic folks who really want to make a good product. I can only assume somewhere in their upper management chain is where it is going awry.

Adobe has a bad case of "Aldus Syndrome" (had it for a while now)…and the only cure might be for an upstart to knock them down a peg…or steamroll them over.

Yes Adobe, I remember how you came to prominence…and you have become what you once fought against. Shame really.

Christina_Jarosz
Level 9
June 7, 2022

I value this feedback. I despise being negative - so I do try to be constructive in my comments. However, the WF that 'once was' no longer exists. Adobe has swallowed it, chewed it up, and spit it out. I'm not sure I agree with their strategy of absorbing WF vs. allowing it to continue to exist as a standalone product (i.e. Workfront, an Adobe Company).

We have users that are interested in implementing WF further in their area and I have put them on hold for now. I don't feel confident championing a product that no longer is considered a champion in itself.

To that end, has anyone developed an exit strategy to reduce their dependency on Workfront?

ETA: I do applaud that they are letting this thread stand in the interest of transparency. I'm not sure if they intended it to be publicly visible since it's a public site indexed by google searches.

Kelly_Wehrmann
Level 9
June 6, 2022

**** UPDATE to the below Post *****

Tracy from Workfront reached out regarding my post below and helped trace this through.

In this particular instance, he was able to verify that the email in question was sent to the Workfront System Admin Id that we use for a few API processes, not a actual named user.

I continued the trace on our side and received confirmation that our email system intercepted the email and routed it to a Distribution List (DL) associated with this particular Workfront System Admin Id. This DL is the reason why this email found its way to resources that were not setup as Workfront System Admin. :)

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Has anyone else had reports from non-system admin users in their instance about receiving a Workfront Announcement today (Complete the transition to the new Workfront Experience)?

We have just completed migrating of our ACTIVE users, but have not officially pulled the plug on Classic. We did this intentionally, because it gives us (system admin) the opportunity to compare/contrast issues reported in the new UI to Classic.

As you can imagine, this email has created confusion for our users because they 'thought' they were already migrated.... now they receive an email like this?!

This email should have NEVER gone out to non-system admin users. I can't even come up with a good reason why they would have sent this out.... it makes no sense!

I've reached our to our CSM and Renewal Specialist to let them know this happened and to find out why. If it was a mistake they should have sent another message letting people know to disregard it. I'm disappointed that they did this and very disappointed with communication for other things like this, especially lately.