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☕[AT Community Q&A Coffee Break] 8/11/21, 8am PT: Jim McTiernan, Principal Solutions Consultant for Adobe Target☕

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Join us for the next monthly Adobe Target Community Q&A Coffee Break,

taking place Wednesday, August 11th, 2021 @ 8am PT

🗓️☕Be sure to MARK YOUR CALENDARS with a link to this thread☕🗓️

We'll be joined by Jim McTiernan, aka @jim_mctiernan, Principal Solutions Consultant for Adobe Target, who will be signed in here to the Adobe Target Community to chat directly with you on this thread about your Adobe Target questions pertaining to his areas of expertise:

Adobe Target Recommendations
AB and MVT testing
Personalization

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Jim McTiernan has been involved in the optimization space since 2009 when he joined Adobe Corporation. Currently, Jim is an Adobe Cloud Expert, specializing in Adobe Target.

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arko1092

@Jim_McTiernan What is the best way to create reporting dashboard for multivariate test? How do we pull location contribution reports for MVT activities?

Jim_McTiernan

Adobe Employee

@arko1092 wrote:
@Jim_McTiernan What is the best way to create reporting dashboard for multivariate test? How do we pull location contribution reports for MVT activities?

The best method to evaluate your Target MVT reports is via the Analysis Workspace A4T Panel. Please note that the location contribution reports are not available there however, so you will need to view those reports in the Target reporting UI. See: https://experienceleague.adobe.com/docs/analytics/analyze/analysis-workspace/panels/a4t-panel.html?lang=en

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darthzeran

Level 2

@Jim_McTiernan How can I create a new mbox to put into my sites, so that I do not have 1000 collisions?

Jim_McTiernan

Adobe Employee

@darthzeran wrote:
@Jim_McTiernan How can I create a new mbox to put into my sites, so that I do not have 1000 collisions?

The default target_global_mbox set by at.js should really be all you need in most cases. Collisions can be alleviated using Priority settings. See: https://experienceleague.adobe.com/docs/target/using/activities/priority.html?lang=en

If you do need to create more mboxes for some reason, you can use the at.js getOffer and applyOffer functions outlned here: https://experienceleague.adobe.com/docs/target/using/implement-target/client-side/at-js-implementation/functions-overview/adobe-target-getoffer.html?lang=en

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darthzeran

Level 2

@Jim_McTiernan How - If I want to create a JSON design to return the top 10 most popular of all time, what should my JSON look like? Would I keep the same design as the example JSON here (https://experienceleague.adobe.com/docs/target/using/recommendations/recommendations-design/create-design.html?lang=en), or would I remove the key line because I do not want the top 10 to be based off a key?

Jim_McTiernan

Adobe Employee

@darthzeran wrote:
@Jim_McTiernan How - If I want to create a JSON design to return the top 10 most popular of all time, what should my JSON look like? Would I keep the same design as the example JSON here (https://experienceleague.adobe.com/docs/target/using/recommendations/recommendations-design/create-design.html?lang=en), or would I remove the key line because I do not want the top 10 to be based off a key?

Yes, you can use that same design and remove the 'key' line as it won’t be necessary for a Popularity algorithm.

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daryaivankina

@jim_mctiernan what is the best practice of using Recommendations? How many variations are minimum for running the test? Should there be at least 10-20 content variations?

Jim_McTiernan

Adobe Employee

@daryaivankina wrote:
@jim_mctiernan what is the best practice of using Recommendations? How many variations are minimum for running the test? Should there be at least 10-20 content variations?

If you have only 10 to 20 variations, I suggest you use an AB Test Auto-target Activity instead of a Recommendations Activity. That will be the best approach for such a limited set of recommended offers. Note that the Target ‘Recommendations’ Activity type is designed for 100s to millions of unique items that need to be suggested. Please see the Target AI Activity type overview here which should help with where/when to run each Target Activity type: https://business.adobe.com/content/dam/dx/us/en/why-adobe/experience-cloud-artificial-intelligence/pdfs/Adobe-Sensei-Datasheet-Adobe-Target-features-powered-by-Adobe-Sensei-Datasheet.pdf

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danielt36113379

Level 2

@Jim_McTiernan

1) How do we set up an activity experience (eg. a pop-up when a user abandons a journey) so that a user can only see it once in a visit?

2) Linked to the above, how can we see how many times a user sees a Target test experience in a single visit? Is there an A4T dimension that can be used, for example?

3) Is it possible/recommended to set up AA tagging on specific CTAs within a pop-up banner - not a unique page with a defined URL? CTA might be "submit", or similar.

Thanks in advance,

Dan

Jim_McTiernan

Adobe Employee

@danielt36113379 wrote:
@Jim_McTiernan
1) How do we set up an activity experience (eg. a pop-up when a user abandons a journey) so that a user can only see it once in a visit?

You can set a user profile in the custom code section of the offer/experience (in Modifications panel), and then Target the Activity to visitors without that profile value (ie user.sawOffer=true). More info on Custom Code in the Modification panel here: https://experienceleague.adobe.com/docs/target/using/experiences/vec/modifications/vec-code-editor.html?lang=en

2) Linked to the above, how can we see how many times a user sees a Target test experience in a single visit? Is there an A4T dimension that can be used, for example?

I would try building a Segment in Analytics based on Target Activity impressions. I have never done so myself but I think this should work.

3) Is it possible/recommended to set up AA tagging on specific CTAs within a pop-up banner - not a unique page with a defined URL? CTA might be "submit", or similar.

Yes you can always set-up AA tagging on specific CTAs. One benefit of the Analytics for Target (A4T) server-side integration between Analytics and Target is that you can define a free-form click metric using Target (e.g. on a brand new CTA button you are adding to a page) using a free-form click tracking metric you visually select when building an Activity in Target . See: https://experienceleague.adobe.com/docs/target/using/activities/success-metrics/click-tracking.html?lang=en

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danielt36113379

Level 2

Thanks @jim_mctiernan - this is incredibly helpful.

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ErinMGavin67

@Jim_McTiernan How do I use Target to track multiple CTAs on a page at one time? Some pages have multiple CTAs and it would be tedious to test all links separately. Thank you! [Erin Gavin from Intel UX/UI team]

Jim_McTiernan

Adobe Employee

@erinmgavin67 wrote:
@Jim_McTiernan How do I use Target to track multiple CTAs on a page at one time? Some pages have multiple CTAs and it would be tedious to test all links separately. Thank you! [Erin Gavin from Intel UX/UI team]

Hi Erin, please use the free-form click tracking metric I mentioned above. You can apply one success metric to multiple CTAs, and it works for both Target reporting as well as A4T reporting. See: https://experienceleague.adobe.com/docs/target/using/activities/success-metrics/click-tracking.html?lang=en

Jim_McTiernan

Adobe Employee

Good morning everyone and welcome! I’m looking forward to answering your questions today.

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darthzeran

Level 2

@jim_mctiernan How can I pass a multivariable custom attribute through

https://developers.adobetarget.com/api/recommendations/#operation/saveEntities. And then from that, how can I add a parameter matching rule in a criteria to filter on a multi value custom attribute?

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Moses_Maxen

Adobe Employee

@darthzeran wrote:
@jim_mctiernan How can I pass a multivariable custom attribute through
https://developers.adobetarget.com/api/recommendations/#operation/saveEntities. And then from that, how can I add a parameter matching rule in a criteria to filter on a multi value custom attribute?

Hi @darthzeran - Please refer the following documentation for sample code for passing an array through a custom entity attribute. This is an example using the delivery API however the same approach can be used for the save entity API. - https://experienceleague.adobe.com/docs/target/using/recommendations/entities/custom-entity-attributes.html?lang=en#using-apis

Additionally, below the sample code on that page, the documentation walks through how to filter / segment matching against the array.

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darthzeran

Level 2

@moses_maxen wrote:
@darthzeran wrote:
@jim_mctiernan How can I pass a multivariable custom attribute through
https://developers.adobetarget.com/api/recommendations/#operation/saveEntities. And then from that, how can I add a parameter matching rule in a criteria to filter on a multi value custom attribute?
Hi @darthzeran - Please refer the following documentation for sample code for passing an array through a custom entity attribute. This is an example using the delivery API however the same approach can be used for the save entity API. - https://experienceleague.adobe.com/docs/target/using/recommendations/entities/custom-entity-attributes.html?lang=en#using-apis

Additionally, below the sample code on that page, the documentation walks through how to filter / segment matching against the array.

I have this page open, so I guess I need to try tor refine my question, sorry about that.

It's that that's the entities API call - how do I pass multi-value there? The documentation has an mbox example and CSV example, but we load via target entities API calls

(the context here is because I can't use mbox or csv I can't confirm how it should look once loaded)

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darthzeran

Level 2

@jim_mctiernan How do access tokens work for hitting the target API?
99% of the documentation I have read say nothing about needing an access token to hit the API, (with the 1 % just saying at the beginning of the API docs, here is how you get an access token, but nothing saying it needed to be included on any other request.) so I was surprised when I copied a target request from my dev tools and saw that the request payload had an API token.
Are these minted constantly? If I get one, can I use it forever? Do they have time limits? etc.

surebee

Adobe Employee

@darthzeran wrote:
@jim_mctiernan How do access tokens work for hitting the target API?
99% of the documentation I have read say nothing about needing an access token to hit the API, (with the 1 % just saying at the beginning of the API docs, here is how you get an access token, but nothing saying it needed to be included on any other request.) so I was surprised when I copied a target request from my dev tools and saw that the request payload had an API token.
Are these minted constantly? If I get one, can I use it forever? Do they have time limits? etc.

@darthzeran,

The Target API can be split into different categories as described here.

All Admin APIs and the Authenticated Profile APIs and the Reporting API (subsection in the Admin API) use the Adobe.IO integration. And all Adobe.IO APIs must include the Access Token in the request header.

The Delivery API does not need authentication.

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darthzeran

Level 2

@surebee wrote:
@darthzeran wrote:
@jim_mctiernan How do access tokens work for hitting the target API?
99% of the documentation I have read say nothing about needing an access token to hit the API, (with the 1 % just saying at the beginning of the API docs, here is how you get an access token, but nothing saying it needed to be included on any other request.) so I was surprised when I copied a target request from my dev tools and saw that the request payload had an API token.
Are these minted constantly? If I get one, can I use it forever? Do they have time limits? etc.
@darthzeran,
The Target API can be split into different categories as described here.
All Admin APIs and the Authenticated Profile APIs and the Reporting API (subsection in the Admin API) use the Adobe.IO integration. And all Adobe.IO APIs must include the Access Token in the request header.
The Delivery API does not need authentication.

Maybe we need to make a ticket then, because when we call the Delivery API without an access token to hit our mBox, we get nothing, but when I copied the call from my DevTools and pasted it in postman, it worked because there was an access_token field in the payload

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Jamie_Re

Level 2

@jim_mctiernanDO you have any good tools or methods to help us understand how to debug Target experiences that are failing to load on the page due to JS errors or conflicts when running mulitple activities on a page. I have seen errors related to click tracking but nothing solid seems to some out of it. Tips/Tricks?

Jim_McTiernan

Adobe Employee

@jamie_re wrote:
@jim_mctiernanDO you have any good tools or methods to help us understand how to debug Target experiences that are failing to load on the page due to JS errors or conflicts when running mulitple activities on a page. I have seen errors related to click tracking but nothing solid seems to some out of it. Tips/Tricks?

Are you using Mbox Trace for debugging? It should show the Target Activities, ones you've qualified for, and Experiences returned. See:

https://experienceleague.adobe.com/docs/target/using/implement-target/client-side/at-js-implementation/functions-overview/target-debugging-atjs.html?lang=en#section_FD3BC8019FA847209AB8BCA747C50211

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Jamie_Re

Level 2

I am using tge MBox Trace and I can see what is running but I am interesting in what is failing to run and if you have any tips about how to debug that kind of situation.

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