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Davd_Spivak_-_A
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January 5, 2016
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Dual article orientation

  • January 5, 2016
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Hi guys - I've seen posts in the pasts where Adobe planning on releasing an update to DPS that allows a publisher to have two articles with two different orientations within one collection. e.g. Blue Collection can have Blue Article 1 in vertical orientation and Blue Article 2 in horizontal orientation. When is this update going to be released? I have a client who would like to use full page bleeds to exhibit his vertical and horizontal images and can't do that with the new DPS 2015 until this is released. Thanks!

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    Best answer by bobbr3212

    No, that's not right. You can add portrait and landscape fixed-layout articles to the same collection, and they'll both display, but one will have severe letterboxing. And if you rotate the device, nothing will change. I believe the feature you're referring to would allow users to rotate the device to display the article in a different rotation, such as a landscape spreadsheet in a portrait app. That's not available yet.

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    BobLevine
    BobLevine
    Level 6
    February 12, 2016

    Just to be clear…I didn’t say there were no exceptions.

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    davidhicks_dps
    Level 5
    February 12, 2016

    Still don't like the thought of the dual nav within the same app.

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    Doigman
    Level 2
    February 12, 2016

    We have hundreds of layouts designed horizontally using InDesign that we would like to have as an archives in the new app. While I agree that its not a great user experience to have different orientations in the same app, I think it is even worse experience to have them letter-boxed like they have to be now. So what is the point of having responsive design if we cannot use it in the app?

    BobLevine
    BobLevine
    Level 6
    February 12, 2016

    You can…with HTML. You’ve never been able to with InDesign.

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    Doigman
    Level 2
    February 15, 2016

    So Bob I am missing on HOW you do it,  if you say: "You can.. with HTML"

    How do I put an horizontal (responsive HTML5) article into a vertical app?

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    Edited after re-reading your statement a bunch of times:

    "You’ve never been able to with InDesign." what is that supposed to mean? with the old version of DPS you CAN have an app that handles vertical, horizontal, and multi formatted articles.

    I am not asking for the app to be multi, I just want to open up a horizontal PDF,  horizontal web page or an old folio all horizontally in a vertical app made with DPS 2015.

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    rperez_bonnier
    Level 4
    February 16, 2016

    InDesign and DPS Classic (2014) would let you assign two separate inDesign layouts as the sources for the Vertical and Horizontal displays for the same article. This no longer works in DPS 2015 (2016?)


    HTML can be set up as responsive, which means that one HTML layout can "respond" to how it is being displayed and therefore the design adapts to the orientation, and one layout serves as the source of both the Vertical and the Horizontal displays for the one article. This works in both DPS 2015(2016?) and DPS Classic (2014)) because HTML is a separate technology unto itself and in this case both instances of DPS are simply letting you display HTML.

    Hope this helps,

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    Doigman
    Level 2
    February 16, 2016

    okay so what I am not getting is how it works in the new DPS Solution. I have created HTML5 responsive articles using the HTML packager, but when they are are in a collection they can only be viewed the same way the app is orientated. How can make an article to have the ability to be responsive?

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    davidhicks_dps
    Level 5
    February 16, 2016

    This is not possible at this time... its either portrait or landscape from an app layout perspective.

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    rperez_bonnier
    Level 4
    February 16, 2016

    You can't set the article to be responsive. Only the HTML that the article is displaying. In the case of HTML, think of the article as a frame or container for the HTML.

    Can you post screenshots of what your article looks like in each orientation? Are you saying that the HTML looks "sideways" when you rotate to landscape?

    Colin_Fleming
    Colin_Fleming
    Level 6
    February 16, 2016

    In DPS 2015, that app controls the orientation of content. The tablet and phone can use different orientations.

    Responsive HTML can present the article content differently on a landscape iPad and portrait iPhone -- and that same article might show differently on an Android or Windows screen all depending on how you write the code.

    BUT all articles on iPad will be shown as landscape because of the app setting. And if you were to put an InDesign-generated portrait article into this app, it would scale to show the entire page and pillar box the page (assuming paginated article.)

    At this time, the app is single orientation.

    Sometime in the future, we may get article orientation independence -- but no dual orientation support.

    HTH

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