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February 26, 2014
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Marketo Recommending Only 2 Program Steps

  • February 26, 2014
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I was just watching the training video on programs and channels and the speaker stated that moving forward, Marketo is now recommending users only create two program (aka progression) steps per channel.

Instead of:

Send 10
Opened 20
Clicked 30
Unsubscribed 40

They recommend simplifying it to:

Member 10
Engaged 20

How does the community feel about this new approach? It certainly would make things easier, but I'm concerned about how little information it provides on the actual progresssion through a campaign. 

I'm beating my head against the wall with channels currently and how to customize them for our needs, so input on this concept would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Agree with this new consolidated approach Marketo recommends.  

Setting up a program status for every email activity was redudant and does not provide additional data beyond what an email performance report or email program dashboard already does.  Only having one status to update also makes cloning/activating programs much faster.  It also makes reading a lead's activity log easier.

As far as syncing information over to Salesforce.com Sales Insight provides details about which emails have been sent/opened/clicked for the sales team.  Interesting Moments can call out specific actions they need to know.  We only add members with an engaged or success status to the SFDC campaign now.  This way SFDC Campaign related lists only show the campaigns leads actually responded to.  Having leads be part of a campaign they did not engage with was not helping make any decisions so we dropped it.

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March 20, 2014
Hi Dory, There are some many ways to do this. When you use the email program type you have a very cool dashboard. If you just use a regular program you can work with progresion statusses. you will need to create triggers that fire on "Opens email" in the smartlist and in the flow step you change the progression status of the program (make sure you have set the correct channels tags in admin). You can also click on the smart campaign that sent out the email asset in the program. Next click on the tab "Email" for a direct report. You can of course also dive into Analytics or RCA for this.
Dan_Stevens_
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March 20, 2014
Like Diederik mentioned, you will first need to ensure the proper program statuses are contained in your channel (within Admin).  Once confirmed, you would simply create the "open" and "clicked" smart campaigns that will allow you to filter program members by "opens" and "clicks".  Here's an example of a sample program:



Here is the smart list and flow for "01 - Opened":



Here is the smart list and flow for "02 - Clicked":


We don't use the Email Program anymore due to some recent bugs and limitations.  For now, we use a standard Marketo Program for our email programs.
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March 21, 2014
Agree with this new consolidated approach Marketo recommends.  

Setting up a program status for every email activity was redudant and does not provide additional data beyond what an email performance report or email program dashboard already does.  Only having one status to update also makes cloning/activating programs much faster.  It also makes reading a lead's activity log easier.

As far as syncing information over to Salesforce.com Sales Insight provides details about which emails have been sent/opened/clicked for the sales team.  Interesting Moments can call out specific actions they need to know.  We only add members with an engaged or success status to the SFDC campaign now.  This way SFDC Campaign related lists only show the campaigns leads actually responded to.  Having leads be part of a campaign they did not engage with was not helping make any decisions so we dropped it.