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August 19, 2013
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  • August 19, 2013
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Is there any way to prevent duplicate content from being sent by the new engagement functionality in the event that the content was delivered outside of the engagement nurture stream? For example, someone downloads whitepaper xyz directly from your website, but you also have an email in your engagement stream that offers the same content...can you prevent the engagement stream from emailing the asset that has already been downloaded organically off the website?
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Yes, this is possible.  To achieve this you must use programs and program membership.  If you have a program that is added leads to the membership when they download content from your website, then you reference this program in the engagement stream, if the lead is a member, it will skip the program and move to the next piece of content.

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August 19, 2013
My understanding is that for emails, the Engagement Program checks to see if a person has ever been sent that email before, if they have then it will not be resent.
August 19, 2013
I believe that what Cathal said is true, as long as it is literally the same email - and not a local clone.
August 19, 2013
Let me rephrase. I understand the engagement model will not send the same exact same email twice from within a nurture stream.

My question is whether or not there is way to prevent an engagement email that promotes a piece of content from being sent if the same content has already been delivered through a diferent mechanism such as being downloaded directly or through content syndication.

For example, say I run a content syndication deal for whitepapers A, B and C. When someone downloaded any of those three whitepapers, I would want to add them to a nurture stream that included promoting those same whitepapers, but that would skip any nurture emails that promoted a whitepaper that the person had already downloaded.

Make sense? Anyone know the answer to this?
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August 20, 2013
Yes, this is possible.  To achieve this you must use programs and program membership.  If you have a program that is added leads to the membership when they download content from your website, then you reference this program in the engagement stream, if the lead is a member, it will skip the program and move to the next piece of content.
October 15, 2013
@Cheryl

I have the exact same question as Courtland, but I am having a hard time understanding your response and how you would set this up in Marketo. Would you mind laying it out a little more for me? Would you need to set up a program for each whitepaper?

Thanks!
Taylor
October 21, 2013
@Cheryl--I understand how this would be set up, but I guess I dont understand how the stream knows to skip the individuals who are members of the program when we have never told it to skip individuals who members of that program.  Does that make sense?
October 21, 2013
@Andrew - I would love to hear that answer as well. I believe it is a built-in feature of the engagement nurtures. I have tested it and it works, although an answer by Marketo would provide clarity.

Also @Cherly, does the progression status need to be "member" or can it be any status in a program such as "clicked" or "opened".

Thanks!
TM
October 21, 2013
The streams knows to skip the individuals who have membership b/c we built the system to look for this.  This is inherent behavior of a stream. 

The program status can be whatever you want it to be.
November 25, 2013
I have the same need. Can someone please post a screen shot of the solution as I'm having a hard time visualizing it.

Use Case
Basically, there are about 10 web forms on the website. If someone fills out a form for any of them, we want them to drop into the Engagement Stream that delivers emails promoting content they haven't filled out a form for. So if John fills out a form for Content #3, he won't receive an email that promotes Content #3.

Question
Do we create a new program that houses a bunch of rules? Or a campaign within the engagement program? Or keep the rules inside the individual landing page programs? Something else?
Any limiations around Standard Markto instance?

Again, a picture would be very helpful.




November 26, 2013

Hi Jeff -

There are different ways to do it, but I ran into a similar problem you are describing and found creating programs for each piece of content to be the best solution. Not only does that allow you to measure your content better, but it allows you to make sure that people do not receive the content twice by using program statuses. Engagement nurtures recognize if the record is already a member of the program, and if they are, they will bypass that program and move to the next

Here are some screen shots:

Image #1: Creating programs for all of your pieces of content

Image #2:House Assets and Smart Campaigns under the program

Image #3: Create a Smart Campaign similar to "Engagement Nurture Email" w/ the smart list of

Image #4: Create a Smart Campaign similar to "Engagement Nurture Email" w/ the flow of


Image #5: Engagement Nurture. Drag your programs in

Hope this helps.

Best,
Taylor