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Leticia_DoPrado
Level 4
October 17, 2018
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Do we seriously need to know how to code to create a landing page template?

  • October 17, 2018
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I've used 4 different marketing automation tools and I've been new to Marketo over the past few months and I don't understand why there isn't a drag and drop editor for landing page templates and email templates. I feel extremely frustrated because although I know some very basic coding, it's not nearly enough to do some basic things like move modules around or create a very simple landing page that just has a text box, a title, a form and a footer.

Also, I don't understand why there are two options to create a landing page template: free-form or guided. Both of them take you to the template code editor.

Am I just not finding how to build these templates in an easier way? Or is this really how Marketo rolls (you need to 1) be a coder or 2) hire a coder or 3) pay a third party?

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SanfordWhiteman
Level 10
October 18, 2018

As there are a couple of mentions of Unbounce here I want to mention that you should not use Unbounce's so-called Marketo integration, which is in fact broken relative to what an experienced Marketo user expects.

Rather, you should use the Marketo forms endpoint (not a Marketo form, simply the forms endpoint) to accept Unbounce form posts, as noted in my blog post.

Arvin_Poole
Level 2
October 18, 2018

Thanks for pointing this out. We are not using forms at all with Unbounce but good to know for future.

Karyn_Hill
Level 4
October 19, 2018

I code our Marketo templates (I had to figure it out for myself but it was doable). I then create an email (or landing page) using that template, set things up as for our end users in the layout they'll most often use them (this doesn't take much because I create the template almost exactly how they'll be using it), and place that email (or landing page) in a folder I created in Marketing Activities that holds all of our "templates." The end users simply clone the email or page that I created for them and can change it to suit what they need (add a photo banner, pull in a module to display a speaker along with some text, etc.). It's extremely flexible and our end users don't have to think much about it.

You can create your own "templates" this way by finding the most flexible existing template that contains what you believe you'll need, create an email (or landing page) from it, and then save that email to a folder people can clone it from. You just set treat that email (or landing page) like it's your template—clone it, change what you want, and you're set.

Leticia_DoPrado
Level 4
October 29, 2018

Thanks Karyn, this sounds like a good idea. I'll definitely try it!

Ryan_ZAKSZESKI
Level 2
October 22, 2018

I recently evaluated Instapage, Unbounce, and LeadPages because I too because frustrated with Marketo out-of-the-box functionality.  All 3 solutions are rather inexpensive for the value they provide.  In the end we went with Instapage and after about a month and a handful of programs, it is working perfectly!  I highly recommend!

Leticia_DoPrado
Level 4
October 29, 2018

Thanks for the recs Ryan! I've never heard of Instapage before, I'll check them out!

November 1, 2018

Ideally landing pages should be part of a website and embed Marketo forms or use Marketo API - this will help in keeping the user on the website and also be part of one domain.

This will simplify landing page creation as whoever is managing the website will developer or author the landing page and not worry about designing/coding separately.

Using unbounce or instapages etc create a new domain and wont help in increasing website traffic.

Level 2
November 8, 2018

Drag and drop functionality is definitely lacking in the Marketo Guided Landing Page editor, especially if you are coming from Unbounce or another solution like that before.

There are several considerations you have to think through if you host your pages outside of Marketo.

Namely:

1. No more use of Marketo tokens (program tokens or otherwise)

2. Your conversion data will live outside of Marketo

3. Can't use Marketo dynamic content on your landing pages

4. Form pre-fill is gone

5. Progressive profiling is gone

If flexibility and control outweigh these Marketo features then it might still make sense to move your LPs out of Marketo, but they are considerations you should definitely weigh.

John_Stalnaker
Level 2
November 8, 2018

Hi @Pierce Ujjainwalla. I embed Marketo forms in WordPress pages using @Sanford Whiteman​'s code, referenced above, and it gives me the ability to fully utilize tokens, form pre-fill, and progressive profiling. I'm not using Marketo dynamic content at this point, so I'm not sure of capabilities there, and - I'll be honest - I do most of my reporting using other methods depending on what I'm after.

Level 2
November 8, 2018

Program tokens in your form or on your WP landing page?