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Folobo
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July 11, 2015
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Apple ID/Google ID/Miscrosoft ID email and Entitlement (what is the user email?)

  • July 11, 2015
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Sorry for this question about an entitlement app.


I need to understand if the email of the user must be always the own Apple ID/Google ID/ Miscrosoft ID email?

Not clear the documentation in this point: if i create a user in my backend how can i know the user Apple ID/Google ID/ Miscrosoft ID?


Really thanks.



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Best answer by Neil_Enns_-_Ado

Entitlement in DPS 2015 is no different than entitlement in the current version of DPS. It's just an email address. Your entitlement server is the one that manages the addresses, passwords, and what that email is allowed to access. It has nothing to do with Adobe IDs, Google IDs, Windows Live IDs, etc.

Neil

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Neil_Enns_-_Ado
Adobe Employee
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Adobe Employee
July 11, 2015

Entitlement in DPS 2015 is no different than entitlement in the current version of DPS. It's just an email address. Your entitlement server is the one that manages the addresses, passwords, and what that email is allowed to access. It has nothing to do with Adobe IDs, Google IDs, Windows Live IDs, etc.

Neil

Folobo
FoloboAuthor
Level 2
July 13, 2015

Sorry Neil.

If i have a retail app how my users could buy the contents if they can not use their Apple IDs, Google IDs, Windows Live IDs, etc...?

Without Apple IDs or Google IDs you can not buy anything from the store (Apple or Google).

Really thanks!

Neil_Enns_-_Ado
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
July 13, 2015

Purchases from the store are separate from logging into the entitlement system. The login to your entitlement server doesn't even have to be an email address. It's up to you when you implement the entitlement server to decide what username/password combination you want to do.

Most companies use email address, but even there it's just an email address. It has nothing to do with an in-app purchase so it doesn't have to be one of the ID types you mention.

Neil

Neil_Enns_-_Ado
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
July 13, 2015

You might find the resources at Entitlement | Adobe Developer Connection helpful to learn more about entitlement. While the documents are for the current version of DPS it's basically the same in DPS 2015.

Neil

Folobo
FoloboAuthor
Level 2
July 13, 2015

Really thanks Neil.

Yes, i study the Entitlement documentation but i do not understand the relationship between Entitlement and In-App Purchase.

Many sorry but i think that this point is not really clear for many of us!

And if the future is (only) Entitlement app we need understand better!

Neil_Enns_-_Ado
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
July 13, 2015

The future isn’t “(only) Entitlement app”. Nothing’s changed from the current release of DPS here. If you don’t want to use direct entitlement you don’t have to, just leave the settings blank in App Builder.

Neil

Folobo
FoloboAuthor
Level 2
July 13, 2015

Thanks Neil, the question are:

1) Entitlement can be useful also for only-digital (NO print) publisher?If do not exist publisher’s print fulfillment a really desktop webstore is the best choise?

2) In an Entitlement and iTunes Subscription App if a user buy with in in-app purchase use Entitlement username or store ID (Apple ID, Google ID, etc...)

NB: point 2 http://wwwimages.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/products/digital-publishing-suite-enterprise/pdfs/dps-entitlement-wp-ue.… is not clear! Here works single-issue in-app purchases, subscriptions purchased in app, as well as direct entitlement via the publisher’s print fulfillment and/or website subscription systems

Really thanks!

Neil_Enns_-_Ado
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
July 13, 2015

Hi Nick,

The two options are parallel, and you can use either, both, or neither in your app.

1) Sure. We have enterprise customers that use it to control access to content based on which employee logs into the app. It really isn't about purchasing, it's about entitlement. Whether you choose to require a customer to purchase something on your website to get that entitlement is up to you.

2) If you buy with an in-app purchase it uses that store's ID (Apple ID, etc.)

Based on your other threads it looks like you are trying to set up an entitlement system solely to avoid the marketplace fees for in-app purchases. This is really a bad idea. In-app purchases are convenient for readers. Web purchases that are then reflected in the app are not. The amount of time, energy, and money you will spend building, maintaining, and supporting an entitlement system to try and avoid the marketplace fees is not worth it.

Neil

Folobo
FoloboAuthor
Level 2
July 13, 2015

Thanks again Neil!

1) So the best use of Entitlement is without purchase (or publisher’s print fulfillment), confirm?

We know that desktop webstore is a bad experience for users.

2) Sure, i have given up the idea of marketplace!

But a user that buy with in-app purchase in an Entitlement and iTunes Subscription App what use?

  • Entitlement username
  • Store ID (Apple ID, Google ID, etc...)

In other words: How to associate an in-app purchase action to the Entitlement user?

NB. Sorry i'm stupid but it's difficult for me understand this point: iTunes Subscription App in a Entitlement app!

Neil_Enns_-_Ado
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
July 13, 2015

1) Not necessarily, it depends on what your specific needs are. You have to decide what mix of purchase options you want to provide to your customers.

2) If they purchase in-app, it uses the Store ID. There is no connection between that purchase and your entitlement system. There is no association between that purchase action and an entitlement user. They’re completely separate.

Neil