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Update: i just created a new project using a ConnectSessionContainer  instead of a headless one and removed the id of the sharedWB, but kept  the shareID (i think this is what you were mentioning).  It still didn't  seem to bring up my items though.  I can still select/move/resize those  invisible images though, which is the odd thing, but how to get them  visible again is what is still throwing me off.  would it help if i private msged u the  roomURL (and then u can click around to see what i mean about the "invisible items") ? --thanks again for the help with this