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Hi Bruce

Many thanks for getting back to me.  The basic problem is that if possible I want the monthly activity subform hidden unless the anything to report drop down list is yes.  However when you click to add a new monthly activity it renders the hidden subform and I cannot work out how to add the relative references to make it visible.  The alternative is that I keep the subform visible but make the initial instance as 0 but again playing around with it yesterday I could not get it to work.  If you are able to have a look would be really really helpful as trying to get this done for work! 

Here is latest form with your code in. You will see what I mean if you set the anything to report to yes and then try and add a new activity.

http://www.adls.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/ADRC-activity-form-5-master-validation-working.pdf

Best wishes

Darren